Muted greeting overlap strands turn

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1 independent reportacross 1 sourceon 3 stackslast reported 2026-08-25

What this is

When the caller speaks while their microphone is deliberately muted during the agent's opening greeting, the overlap corrupts turn-tracking so the caller is never heard again for the rest of the call.

Status open: reported and still open where it was reported.

Evidence

mannyb2232026-08-25deepgrampipecattelnyxGitHub issuesgithub.com/…/5425

User-input muting + Deepgram Flux STT: overlapping speech during muted greeting strands the turn — caller unheard for the rest of the call

First seen 2026-08-25 · our copy fetched 2026-08-25T08:07:13Z · SHA-256 of that copy begins 3de1b74ecb223a70… · profile

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What is measurable

Signal	`hotato autopsy ./call.wav` maps to this mode as detector kind `overlap_while_agent_talking`. Printed as BARGE-IN: the caller took the floor and the agent kept speaking, reported with the overlap in seconds. Needs the caller and agent on separate channels.
Establishes	The seconds of overlap where the caller had taken the floor and the agent kept speaking, with the timestamp in the call where it started. What else it establishes, and what your own trace settles The same recording produces the same overlap on every run, so the number is comparable across builds. What your trace settles Your pipeline trace at that timestamp names what held the floor: the interrupt handler, the VAD threshold, or the realtime API's own turn logic. Whether the caller meant to interrupt is a judgement about the conversation; the measurement covers who held the floor and for how long.
Tier	Tier 1 · dual-channel audio: caller and agent separated at capture, so overlap and timing are facts of the recording, exact to the sample. hotato is MIT and runs locally, getting started.

Status history

The record has carried one status since it opened: open, reported and still open where it was reported. A move lands here with the link, the quote and the date that show it.

Mode	Status	Shares
Interruption fallback overstates delivered text	open	reported on deepgram; reported on pipecat; reported on telnyx; reported on github
Barge-in teardown race	acknowledged	reported on deepgram; reported on pipecat; measured by the same detector (overlap_while_agent_talking); reported on github
Endpoint misdetection	acknowledged	reported on deepgram; reported on pipecat; reported on github

Discussion

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The record

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Atlas id	`VFA-2026-0042`
Mode id	`pat_819608553061546ff06d9a22`
Content digest	`sha256:819608553061546ff06d9a22e8d9f05e60911f51ed6153e404341337bee74181`
First reported	`2026-08-25`
Last reported	`2026-08-25`
First seen by the atlas	`2026-08-25T08:01:35Z`
Last re-checked	`2026-08-25T08:01:35Z`
Reported on	deepgrampipecattelnyx
Sources	GitHub issues
Scope	1 independent public report across 1 source. This entry states where the mode has been reported; where else it can occur is what the next report settles.
References	reporthttps://github.com/pipecat-ai/pipecat/issues/5425 · mannyb223 · GitHub issues · 2026-08-25
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